I am looking for CD's and DVD's of solo flamenco singing. Palos of interest are Siguiriyas, Soleares, Alegrias, Bulerias, and Tanguillo. Maybe a Taranta. I want old school singing to practice learning accompaniment. Does anyone know of such? Also does anyone know how or where I could have Diego's accompaniment removed from recording with Fernanda and Perrate? Not that I don't like Diego, but I would like to take what I have learned from listening to him and see what I can come up with for accompaniment. I am unable to travel and study with singers and guitarist skilled as accompanist and so far all the available books and DVD's I have come across are a disappointment. I am doing this all for fun and personal entertainment and a way to better grasp compas.

Sam, I don't know of any CDs or DVDs without the guitar, and just the cante. BUT, a lot of CDs have the guitar track quite separated from the vocal track (left ear vs. right ear, especially noticeable on headphones).. So, it shouldn't be too much of a challenge to drop out the guitar track, and feed just the vocal track to speakers or headphones. Worth a try. I'm thinking of, say, the Mairena anthology Antologia del Cante Flamenco y Cante Gitano; I also just got the Rafael Romero CD from the Grands Cantaores du Flamenco series, with Perico, and the two tracks are well separated on most tracks. As I recall, the Niño de Almadén CD is also well separated.

Carlos

Thanks Carlos and I have been working on the Perico del Lunar hijo and Romero siguiriyas using the utube video. Where did you find the CD? Thanks for the idea on the channel separation. Work great for me as I can't hear out of my right ear at all. I can't separate them on the video. I hear both cante y toque in my left ear on the video.

Sam, I am sure that I have old solo Siguiriyas cantes and possibly some other old solo cantes scattered through my flamenco music library. I am not sure which albums they are in, but I know that I have some. Most of those recordings were digitized from vinyl disks and have never been commercially available on CD's, but I will keep in mind that you would like to have them and will let you know what I have as I come across them.

-Bob

Odano Icifa wrote: ... a lot of CDs have the guitar track quite separated from the vocal track (left ear vs. right ear, especially noticeable on headphones). So, it shouldn't be too much of a challenge to drop out the guitar track, and feed just the vocal track to speakers or headphones.

Carlos is right about that. I often listen with headphones and many flamenco CD recordings do have a significant amount of separation between guitar and vocal on the two tracks. Although, I have noticed that one track generally has mostly guitar and the other has a both guitar and vocal with the vocal level higher than the guitar.

The Terremoto De Jerez (1934-1981) Grands Cantaores Du Flamenco Vol 4 CD has better than average separation.

It contains these recordings:

01-De Santiago Y Santa Ana Siguiriyas
02-Como Si Fueara Una Iglesia Bulerias
03-Ni Testigos Ni Abogados Fandangos
04-No Me Quiere Tu Gente Soleares
05-La Calle Nueva Bulerias
06-Remedio No Tenga Soleares
07-Que La Besara En Las Manos Fandangos
08-Mira La Que Es Ignorancia
09-Morirme Quisiera Siguiriyas
10-Fiesta En El Barrio Santiago Bulerias

Sam, do you have that CD?

-Bob

Sam, I will listen more carefully (again) to those CDs I have that have significant separation between the guitar and the vocal tracks, and will submit a list. Bob is quite correct that the separation is not complete--you can almost always hear a little of the other track, but the effect is still useful. The Grands Cantaores du Flamenco series is GREAT! I have 6 of the CDs so far, and am gratified at the taste that Mario Bois has shown in selecting the songs for each performer's disk.

Carlos

Odano Icifa wrote:The Grands Cantaores du Flamenco series is GREAT! I have 6 of the CDs so far, and am gratified at the taste that Mario Bois has shown in selecting the songs for each performer's disk.
Carlos

That is true. I have the entire series. Anyone interested in traditional flamenco singing would enjoy them.

Manos Lentas wrote:I am looking for CD's and DVD's of solo flamenco singing. Palos of interest are Siguiriyas, Soleares, Alegrias, Bulerias, and Tanguillo. Maybe a Taranta. I want old school singing to practice learning accompaniment. Does anyone know of such?

Sam, I happened to find an old recording of Bernardo El De Los Lobitos singing La Trilla solo while listening to flamenco this morning. For those who may not know, Bernardo El De Los Lobitos' real name was José Álvarez Pérez. He has born in Alcalá de Guadaira (Sevilla) in 1886 and died in 1969. He first sang publically in Seville cafés, but eventually become popular singing bulerías in Madrid. His stage name came from the words of a bulerías song he made popular. He was never considered to be one of the best flamenco singers of his time, but he did become popular around Madrid.

I am posting the following recording of him singing La Trilla with the belief that the recording is not subject to copyright. I will remove it immediately if a copyright owner notifies me that isn't true.


One problem with trying to accompany solo cante like this is that it may not have been, and probably was not, sung at any standard pitch, so it probably will be necessary to tune a guitar to match the pitch of the singer.

-Bob

Thanks Bob. Perfect. I got it right off at least to my ears. Cejilla 2nd fret using A and Bb.

Manos Lentas wrote:Thanks Bob. Perfect. I got it right off at least to my ears. Cejilla 2nd fret using A and Bb.

When you have it perfected you should let us hear La Trilla (Bernardo El De Los Lobitos y Manos Lentas).

-Bob

Here is another one for you to work on that is posted with the belief that it is not subject to copyright. It will be removed immediately if a copyright owner asks that it be removed.


Pepe El Culata's real name was José Bermúdez Vega. He was born into a Gypsy family in Triana (Sevilla) in 1911 and died in Madrid in 1978.

I have another 25 to 50 or so old solo cante flamenco recordings. Many were digitized from old analog disks that do not contain copyright notices, but copyright notices may not be required in some places to benefit from copyright protection laws. Many old copyrights have expired, but copyright laws vary throughout the world and have changed significantly in most places over time. All these factors make it difficult to determine whether or not old recordings are subject to copyright protection.

-Bob