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Hello from Arizona

Postby Pluto » 21 Aug 2010, 23:01

Am retired and have taken up the guitar in my old age. I have played the guitar off and on for many years, but never to a point somewhere beyond beginner. I listen to Escudero, Sabicas and Pena.
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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby SamC » 22 Aug 2010, 11:05

Welcome to the foro and guitar is a great thing to pass time as we age. You picked 3 of the great solo players to listen too and keep on listening as even the highly technical parts will help you with compas. Don't try to count compas, just listen and eventually you will discover for example that a 100 note falseta is based on a 25 note traditional melody that you can learn to play or may already play.
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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby Pluto » 24 Aug 2010, 04:35

Well that is encouraging, not counting, the first time I have heard that.
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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby TomasJimenez » 01 Sep 2010, 10:24

Keep meaning to say hello and welcome.
We like the same guitarists. I play a lot of Paco and some Sabicas, I play less Mario but there are some individual falsetas that I like and I also like every much a Zapateado of his called Repiqueteos.
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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby Pluto » 05 Sep 2010, 06:04

As far as I can determine, Sabicas and Escudero recorded three albums together. I have two of them. They are remarkable. One is traditonal with forms not often recorded, in particular a Villancio and a Zapateado. The other is a collection of South American tunes, including an extraordinary version of the Mexican Hat Dance. Anita Ramos, Escudero's bride, appears on the traditonal album, dancing and clapping. Would welcome information about the third.

I have bought many CDs that I listened to once, all of them newish derivative flamenco.
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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby Bob » 05 Sep 2010, 13:22

Sabicas and Mario Escudero recorded these four albums:

Flamenco Styles On Two Guitars
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Sabicas y Escudero
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The Fantastic Guitars
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The Romantic Guitars
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I can post samples from any of them. Let me know the ones you would most like to hear.

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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby Pluto » 05 Sep 2010, 15:30

Bob, Many thanks. I would like to hear any of the first two, which I do not have. I also would like to acquire the LPs and convert them to digital.
Thanks again.
Lovely covers.
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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby Fernandez » 05 Sep 2010, 22:08

Pluto wrote:I also would like to acquire the LPs and convert them to digital.

Old flamenco recordings often can be found on eBay, although sometimes at ridiculously high prices.

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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby Bob » 07 Sep 2010, 13:20

Pluto wrote:Bob, Many thanks. I would like to hear any of the first two, which I do not have.

It had been a while since I had listened to those recordings. The music on the first two discs is very similar. The second "Sabicas y Escudero" disc seems to be a republication of music on first "Flamenco Styles On Two Guitars" disc with some modifications. The first disk has two Sevillanas recordings. The second disc has only one of them. Both discs contain "La Farruca" recordings that seem identical unless they are compared critically where very minor timing differences can be heared. One recording must have been a retake of the other during the same recording session. Otherwise I can't imagine that two guitarist would be able to play such complicated music together so nearly the same a second time. "Ritmos De Sabicas" on the first disc has a rather long rhythmic introduction that was eliminated on the second disc. Because the music is so nearly identical I will post samples only from the first disc.

These short introductory audio samples are posted in accordance with the fair use provisions of Chapter 107 of U.S. Copyright Law as follows:

§ 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

In addition to those fair use provisions, these recordings have been out of production for many years. Furthermore, to the extent that a few copies still may be commercially available these samples will tend to encourage, rather than discourage, record sales.

Flamenco Styles On Two Guitars
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02 Sevillanas II.mp3


03 La Farruca.mp3


04 Temas Primitivos.mp3


05 Fandango Del Albaicin.mp3


06 Recuerdo A Linares.mp3


07 Ritmos De Sabicas.mp3


08 Sentimiento Flamenco.mp3


09 Soleara Gaditana.mp3


10 Camino Del Monte.mp3


11 Impovisacion.mp3


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Re: Hello from Arizona

Postby Pluto » 07 Sep 2010, 15:20

Bob, many thanks. It's a treat to listen to them as always. I appreciate it.
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