Jacinto wrote:Sevillanas are not generally considered flamenco. (Ak a flamenco if he or she considers them flamenco) For various reasons- which include 1.a bit of racism (walk around a town feria and look in teh casetas -see whose dancing them. Respectable middle class gache They like other folk seguidillas are more "acceptable" to gadche)
2 Hey guys- "flamenco" is a SOLO art. With small exceptions- ONE dancer showing his/her stuff. IT is ego, It is Viva yo! That is one thing tht differentiales flamenco form folk music
That said, let me mention two posible excepitons
1 Go to Youtube and watch EL Pali sing his slow sevillanas
2 Listen to Diego del hasstor's brothe's sevillans now rerded on CAL-the second album of Son de la Frontera
Attitude about Sevillanas
I can never understand the recent bad blood towards Sevillanas.
Some years ago Paco de Lucia recorded a Sevillanas on a record Almoraima and at that time it was considered most advanced and worthy of respect in flamenco circles. In the Saura movie he also performed a Sevillanas with Manolo Sanlucar and again much respect.
Flamenco guitarists have always included Sevillanas and almost all flamenco guitarists have included one or two pieces with castanets.
Personally I believe that it is a little difficult to really know everything all about what flamenco is and where it originates and where which piece originates, Yet I would say that sometimes I do wonder if it genuinely necessary to know all those things.
I also want to say that there seems a lot of bad blood against traditional Andalucía folklore in the form of Sevillanas and castanets etc and this often comes from the same people who support the inclusion in flamenco of other instruments such as of wind instruments and percussive instruments and often used to add a texture and feeling which is not Andaluz.
I mean it seems that often the less purists are the first to criticize an expression which is a feeling of Andalucía and if not strictly flamenco certainly a cousin or a friend of flamenco.
Sevillanas to my personal opinion as castanets are more a friend of flamenco than maybe electronic instruments, variety of percussive instruments and most significantly a selection of moods and feelings that seem to my ears to originate in the expression of the most beautiful music of the USA particularly jazz and maybe blues.
These musics are so beautiful and I respect them so much yet I do not find them in reality flamenco of Andalucía.
Also I want to say about what Jacinto said about the people of the casetas that I do not feel positive or negative towards another person because of their social economic class and I do not think that the love of flamenco is exclusively something of economically disadvantaged people. I imagine that quite a few of the Americans on this foro may have a stronger economic level than some of the andaluz making flamenco but I would not say that the Americans are not genuine in their feeling.
Saludos cordiales
Tomas